{"id":295339,"date":"2024-11-25T19:54:09","date_gmt":"2024-11-25T18:54:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alpinemag.com\/leur-premiere-comment-ils-la-font-et-comment-ils-la-racontent\/"},"modified":"2024-11-27T14:51:04","modified_gmt":"2024-11-27T13:51:04","slug":"opinion-jirishanca-first-ascent-movie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alpinemag.com\/opinion-jirishanca-first-ascent-movie\/","title":{"rendered":"Their First Ascent: how they do it&#8230; and how they tell it"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;1px||||false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.22.1&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; max_width=&#8221;800px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.22.1&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/alpinemag.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/alpine.quotes-02.png&#8221; title_text=&#8221;alpine.quotes-02&#8243; align=&#8221;center&#8221; show_bottom_space_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; show_bottom_space_phone=&#8221;&#8221; show_bottom_space_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; align_tablet=&#8221;center&#8221; align_phone=&#8221;&#8221; align_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.22.1&#8243; max_width=&#8221;50%&#8221; max_width_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; max_width_phone=&#8221;100%&#8221; max_width_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||-40px||false|false&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;0px||-40px||false|false&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||||false|false&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.22.1&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; max_width=&#8221;800px&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; use_custom_width=&#8221;on&#8221; custom_width_px=&#8221;800px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; z_index_tablet=&#8221;500&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"cb-dropcap-big\">I<\/span>t&#8217;s a popular drawing by French artist Samivel published in his collection Sous l&#8217;oeil des choucas in 1937. The first box of the strip shows two mountaineers climbing a small, debonair peak in bright sunshine, one of them with his hands in his pockets. In the second and last box, the same two climbers are grappling with a tapering pinnacle under a threatening sky. Subtitle: <em>Their First Ascent : How they do it&#8230; and how they tell it<\/em>. Or how to make fun of the boastful mountaineers who populate mountain huts, cafes &#8211; and today&#8217;s internet.<\/p>\n<p>The story here is a different, because the two climbers &#8211; Josh Warton and Vince Anderson &#8211; are not boasters, and more importantly, they did indeed make an important first ascent of Jirishanca, Peru, completing a route previously attempted by another rope party and then by themselves. Their sponsor has made a film of it, with absolutely spectacular aerial images.<\/p>\n<p>The problem is that the American team is seen alone at the summit, while on the same day, and at the same time, a Canadian team, Alik Berg and Quentin Roberts, also reached the summit. They climbed another new route, which earned them a Piolet d&#8217;Or in 2023.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/alpinemag.com\/jirishanca-the-story-behind-the-film\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">As we explained<\/a>, it seems strange that the drone shot of the summit does not include the Canadian team, nor does the film mention their presence, despite the fact that this summit had not been reached for&#8230;nineteen years. Has the video sequence been edited? What&#8217;s certain is that the Canadians are neither shown nor mentioned in the film. Of course, each team climbed separately, but what&#8217;s to be thought of this \u201comission\u201d?<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.22.1&#8243; text_font=&#8221;Merriweather|900|||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16&#8243; custom_margin=&#8221;||||false|false&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221; saved_tabs=&#8221;all&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/alpinemag.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/smith_d_1647_BP_DigitalOnly.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;smith_d_1647_BP_DigitalOnly&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; text_font=&#8221;Merriweather|900|||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16&#8243; custom_margin=&#8221;-14px||||false|false&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221; saved_tabs=&#8221;all&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Photo check : Alik Berg, one of the Canadians, joins the Americans at the summit of Jirishanca. \u00a9 Smith \/ Patagonia<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/alpinemag.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/patagonia_smith_jirishanca_NEW-15-1.jpg&#8221; title_text=&#8221;patagonia_smith_jirishanca_NEW-15&#8243; align=&#8221;center&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; text_font=&#8221;Merriweather|900|||||||&#8221; text_font_size=&#8221;16&#8243; custom_margin=&#8221;-14px||||false|false&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221; saved_tabs=&#8221;all&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Video Capture : the two Americans at the top. Where&#8217;s the Canadian? \u00a9 Smith \/ Patagonia<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; z_index_tablet=&#8221;500&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Reached by phone, Quentin Roberts, one of the two Canadian climbers, wondered, he tells us, if anyone would notice that Alik Berg, his climbing companion, had been deleted from the footage.<\/p>\n<p>Without wanting to add fuel to the fire, Quentin Roberts says that \u201cit&#8217;s very important to be completely fair about the story [filmed here, ed. note] of an ascent.\u201d And he wonders why the Americans didn&#8217;t say no. \u201cSo much of climbing is about trust and honesty,\u201d he says. But clearly, the film&#8217;s director(s) have no such qualms. In reality, how far does the omission go? And when does the falsification begin?<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_testimonial quote_icon_color=&#8221;#000000&#8243; quote_icon_background_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; body_font=&#8221;Oswald|700||on|||||&#8221; body_text_align=&#8221;center&#8221; body_text_color=&#8221;#000000&#8243; body_font_size=&#8221;30&#8243; use_background_color=&#8221;off&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;50px||||false|false&#8221; saved_tabs=&#8221;all&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>So much of climbing is about trust and honesty. Quentin Roberts<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_testimonial][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; max_width=&#8221;800px&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|phone&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px|||&#8221; use_custom_width=&#8221;on&#8221; custom_width_px=&#8221;800px&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; custom_padding__hover=&#8221;|||&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; z_index_tablet=&#8221;500&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Will we soon see mountain\u00a0deepfakes with AI?<\/p>\n<p>Jared Leto free soloing El Capitan?<\/p>\n<p>And why not <a href=\"https:\/\/alpinemag.com\/fake-snow-leopard-photomontage-spread-around-world-kittiya-pawlowski\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a beautiful snow leopard on the glaciers of Khumbu<\/a> (we&#8217;ve revealed the fake news).<\/p>\n<p>Jirishanca, the film, is not an isolated case. This year, an expedition&#8217;s team sent us a set of photos, one of which had clearly been altered to add salt to the adventure, albeit completely invented (the photo, not the expedition).<\/p>\n<p>How far should we go, against the supposed values of mountaineering, to validate or not a performance, a summit? Or\u00a0simply know the circumstances ? Require raw photos (and videos)? Check all GPX segments or tracks? Surely as hackable as a video sequence. Achieving a first, a feat, is beautiful. Telling it honestly is better.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.24.2&#8243; text_font_size=&#8221;18px&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; z_index_tablet=&#8221;500&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p><strong><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Update November 27:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Quentin Roberts\u2019 fellow climber, Alik Berg, wrote a<span>\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/DC2VS2SToG7\/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">post<\/a><span>\u00a0<\/span>on instagram.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe producers had to make some tough decisions when editing the otherwise spectacular summit footage, and I can respect that. However, altering the images to this extent does not strike me as sincere to the viewer, since the film is presented as a documentary.\u201d Alik Berg concludes, \u201cThe whole time Josh and Vince were here [at the summit], I was too. 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